Saturday, February 23, 2008

Financial Sense Online Interview today




Financial Sense Online features three technicians: Tim Wood, Frank Barbara and Bob McHugh. They rotate through the weeks. FSO used to feature Tim Wood and Frank Barbara together. I always enjoyed hearing their interplay. They were together today because Tim Wood was stepping in for Jim Puplova:

I'll share a few things, but I would encourage you to listen to the broadcast. Also, watch for the transcript and print it out.










  • S&P:
    • may go up to 1380-1400 area where there is resistance;
    • currently thinks we are in 'no-man's' land;
    • 1320 is important support. A break here would yield a quick test of 1270
    • If the European led the move, he would think the next major leg down is underway.
    • 1320-1400--lots of noise
    • If 1270 breaks, could see bottom objective of 1100-1150--may see an important bottom forming here.
  • DOW downside objective: 9500-1000
  • Nasdaq
    • Support = 2300
    • Resistance = 2400
    • Capex will not save. All data points point to recession; Tech is dead in the water'
    • Small caps do not do well when banks tighten credit.
  • Stock market in a strong bear market
  • Neither believe worst is over--at the very least a re-test of the January low.
  • The way the financial system is imploding. . . a one off event that is pretty scary.
  • Four year cycle (the second longest in stock market history) has topped
  • 2008 a critical, critical juncture for determining if the upcoming cycle will be inflationary or deflationary (Wood):
    • USD is moving into an opportunity to put in an important low.
    • Commodities putting into an opportunity for an important top
    • Depending how resolved will depend on whether we go into an inflationary vs. deflationary.
  • CRB: CRB is putting in a blow off move. Only once in 40 decades has the CRB had back to back weeks of +90 RSI (weekly).
  • Economic indicators around the world are declining. There is no decoupling.
  • Wealth deflation: bear market in housing; bear market in stocks; difficult credit market--all are contractionary.
  • Runaway inflation will be the easy out for countries (pay off debt with less costly money).
  • Ed Hyman's emerging market economies had the biggest downswing ever.

These guys have been right on the money through out. Neither are perma anything. They are very smart technicians that also keep the macro-economic in view.

It was interesting for me to hear this given my earlier posts that have mentioned the concept of USD strenghthening, and the commodities in its last throes. I thought Wood's thought about the juncture of USD/commodities and how that is resolved in determining inflationary v. deflationary period to be very cogent. I've not heard it distilled so elegantly has he stated it. Do take time to listen.

5 comments:

Anonymous said...

Fantastic find Leisa. I swear everytime you post someone you read they get added to my feed. You also introduced me to Don Coxe. Coxe for sure is an inflationista who sees the commodity tune playing along especially ag.

I liked Wood's non-commital stance in stating that he will let the trends and signals tell him where we are headed thus what's in store for commodities.

I really gravitate to those that are not afraid of stating they don't know for sure what is going on. Too many out there claiming with too much bravado that this or that is currently happening. Nobody knows if it's deflation, inflation, hyperinfl, staginfl..time will tell.

Thanks again.

jest said...

Re: Tim Wood & inflation

i think tim said what he said to hedge himself, but i don't know how we *don't* get inflation.

i don't know about hyperinflation (hyperinflation is a subjective term, except in extreme cases, e.g., Weimar, Zimbabwe)

but significant inflation? definitely.


an 80% decline in the NASDAQ was supposed to be deflationary like 1929; it wasn't.


i just don't see why now would be different. even the fed's forecasts say inflation is more likely to surprise to the upside.

jest said...

btw, that like to the spaghetti recipe gave me this insane craving for pasta.

i love italian saugage.

especially the sweet kind.

Leisa♠ said...

geckojb: I like to hear different voices--particularly those who are willing to say that "the weight of the evidence suggests this...but....". That's why I enjoy Tim and Frank (and Gary Kaltbaum, George Dagnino (peterdag.com), Bill Cara, Jeffrey Saut. I love Coxe, but his broadcast is not readily available. My Dad sends me a link time and again. Coxe is not infallible. He thought that bonds would be the thing in 2006 (as stated in May 2006). I thought he was early and didn't bite. He was early--a year too early. I thought that Tim Wood really crystallized the juncture at which we would get some clarity regarding hyper inflation v. deflation.

Jest: I think that deflation comes about from wealth deflation. The tech bubble didn't affect wealth in as widespread a way as this credit morass. We have people's homes declining, credit drying up for business expansion and gov't operations.

I think that we are truly at a fork in the road. If it ends up being deflationary, and I think much of that hinges on the USD strengthening, then gold/precious metals will likely fall in price. I'm watching and waiting--and will stay flexible. I think that many are making big bets the other way.

I hope that you try the spaghetti recipe. My SIL tried it a loved it. If you love sweet italian sausages, I promise you that you will be nothing short of delighted!

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